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Lesson 5


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Flash
by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 11:11 AM
After looking at several different sites. I agree that flash can be used positively but some sites take it too far. I appreciate the sites that will let you skip the intro. I have also discovered that the auto industry loves to use flash to promote their new vehicles and to allow you to design a vehicle online.
Flash
by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/18/2007 8:04 PM
I looked over nine or ten sites and chose three. There was a large spread in the amount of graphic images and moving images in the sites and their portfolio sites. I like the ones whose porfolio sites mirrored the type of material the site represented.
Flash
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/12/2007 2:19 PM
I am new at using Flash, it has always been something that I came across using the internet without really paying attention to what it was. I am very excited to learn more about the animations.
Flash Online Research
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/11/2007 12:26 PM
I think that using animation and video keeps the audience interested and on your site. One of the benefits of Flash, so I've read is that it is quicker to load. I did notice however that the sites I visited didn't overrun their sites with fancy animations but when I looked at their portfolios they had some busy things going for them. Overall very excited to learn more!
Flash
by Diego Gavilanes (pozwatu7kojtys) at 10/8/2007 12:14 AM
Flash has adopted an eastern graphical style. For example, the campaign of iPod of Apple with the character contours in colorful bottoms. It is possible to be considered tha it has been enormously influenced by a sort of design of Flash. It has changed the perception of Design helping it being more dynamic and opening a new dimention for designers.
flash research
by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 10/7/2007 11:09 PM
Before being directly involved in working with Flash, I didn't pay much attention to animation and how it was created or displayed on a site. Basically, the only thing that I noticed was when something was annoying or not user friendly. It was interesting to actually look back at sites and notice how there is infinite possibilities when using flash and now fully appreciate what must have gone into them.
I am by no means a technology literate person. I am here in cyberschool to try to increase my skill and knowledge in this area. I was, however, confused about how exactly one would know that the web designer used Flash as opposed to other programs that may be out there. Is Flash the only option, so it is assumed?
Re: flash research


by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/8/2007 6:09 AM
One trick that I use is to right-click on the page. If it is Flash, you will see a reference to Flash at the bottom of the menu that pops up. If you go to Nike.com you will see it because their site is completely in Flash. I first noticed this when trying to copy images from these sites. Flash protects most of the images from being copied unlike standard html sites.

Flash Portfolio Research
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/7/2007 8:08 PM
Two of the three sites that I looked at for this project were well designed as well as easy to navigate. The third site “looked” good, but was not as easy to use. It also had links that were out of date and would not work. I think their entire web site was created with Flash, which was okay, but it was almost too much.

Until this class, I did not know much if anything about Flash. Now that I know what Flash is, I was noticing the differences between a “regular” web site and one created using Flash. Those using Flash are definitely “flashier”, but not necessarily better. I think there is probably a happy medium between an all Flash web site and one that uses it sparingly.
Re: Flash Portfolio Research


by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 10/7/2007 11:12 PM
I do agree that the "flashier" ones are not necessarily better. I have noticed that it is not just the animation on a site that catches me. It is also the other priciples/elements of design that if used well, will keep my attention and time.

Flash Portfolio Research
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/7/2007 5:27 PM
The websites that I looked at during this project were far advanced in their development techniques but the sites were not overwhelming with Flash animations. I believe that Flash can be a great tool for emphasis on a site or just to add functionality but there is a point that is too much. The sites that I looked at saved most of the Flash examples for use in their portfolios and not so much on the regular pages of the site.
Re: Flash Portfolio Research


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/7/2007 7:24 PM
I found much the same in the sites I visited. I could be glib and say the days of full-Flash websites were just a "flash in the pan" but I'll resist. <g>

Do you think we can effectively use Flash for our students? Right now it seems so time-consuming that I'm not certain I'm ready to tackle it for my kids.
Re: Flash Portfolio Research
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/7/2007 8:09 PM
After figuring out what Flash was and how it can be used in designing a web site, I agree that there are websites that are far advanced in their development techniques. I also agree that there did not seem to be an overwhelming amount that used Flash animations. Of the sites I researched, there is definitely a point of “too much.”
Burrell Re: Flash Portfolio Research
by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/18/2007 8:07 PM
I agree. Sometimes less is more.
Re: Flash Portfolio Research
by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 11:14 AM
As far as using flash with students, I have found that they have to understand how to make a good web site first. Ihave taught the basics of flash and if you have a good group of sutdents it is possible.

Web Developers
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/7/2007 4:14 PM
I found some great examples of Flash, as well as some very disappointing ones. I saw that it is very easy to "abuse" Flash when using it in a website. The main problem I had with some of the examples were the ones that used text but timed it so fast that the text could not really be read.

I was most impressed with maxmedia.com. The whole site was interactive, but it was easy to navigate and wasn't overwhelming.
Re: Web Developers


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/9/2007 12:12 PM
The text timing bothered me, too, on some of the sites. I've seen the same thing happen with PowerPoint presentations, too.
Thanks for the pointer to maxmedia.com - I'm going to show that to some of my students.
Re: Web Developers
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/11/2007 12:28 PM
I just visited maxmedia.com and their site is pretty good. I like all the interactive stuff they have incorporated. It kept me interested:)

Web developers
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/7/2007 4:09 PM
It has been a fun and informative experience browsing through the different websites. Flash is everywhere. I am a visual learner; flash creation works the best for me. It is a great tool, a wonderful combination of a graphic design, animation and software development platform. I am amazed with mobile flash plug-in. Most of the flash projects download in a reasonable length of time. It is my first time encounter with this software and I am looking forward to learn Flash “how to”.
Re: Web developers


by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/12/2007 2:20 PM
I am also a visual learner and find Flash very appealing. I can not wait to learn more as well!

Flash Web Developers
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/6/2007 4:32 PM
I learned that there are an unlimited number of ways you can use Flash. All of the companies I researched were also competeing in many different tech areas other than Flash Development. It appears to be a very competitive type of business venture. Of the 3 companies I reported on 2 were located out of the country. Most of the companies I look at used Flash in a very creative ways while a couple were a bit vanilla.
Flash Web sites
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/5/2007 10:34 AM
As I searched the Web, I found well designed sites as well as poorly designed sites. I don’t understand why a company would poorly design their own site. One site I found the samples were very well designed. You could read and see the text and had good Flash applications; however, their own site I found that reading the text was difficult because of the color and the size. However, their Flash applications were very good. I enjoyed looking through the Web sites.
Re: Flash Web sites


by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/6/2007 4:35 PM
I agree, some of the sites I view were also quite boring and lacked creativity. Others did a good job of using Flash.
Re: Flash Web sites
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/7/2007 4:10 PM
I agree with you. In my opinion, the main reason is probably because of lack of design knowledge and design skills. I looked back to the site I created in the past; it was not as effective and not professional. After learning about design and publish in several EDT classes, I am able to improve the design of my site.
Re: Flash Web sites
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/7/2007 4:17 PM
I agree. When trying to sell a service, it would seem that the company would take care in designing its own site. The home page is the first thing potential customers are going to see, and if I were looking to hire a web developer, I don't think I would bother looking at the company's portfolio if the home page did not impress me.

Flash Discussion
by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 9/30/2007 8:22 PM
This is a very interesting lesson and I enjoyed researching the web sites. Flash is a very powerful tool for development and give the author a lot of creative latitude. This software beats a lot of the earlier developer programs and delivers a great deal of sophistication.
Flash websites
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 9/27/2007 10:12 PM
The sites I reviewed utilized Flash well, for the most part, using it to convey the message rather than just for glitz. One of the major drawbacks I noticed is the lack of ability to use the "alt" attribute, making such sites less accessible to people with low bandwidth connections, or who use assistive technology.

Flash doesn't seem to be as dominant for entire websites as it was a few years ago. I wonder if this is because of the frustration people have expressed over the (possibly) lengthy download times associated with them, or if sites are using alternative animation formats instead.

The educational uses of Flash that I've encountered have been very effective, e.g. Froguts. I can hardly wait to get my circles to behave so I can move on to more Flash creations.
Re: Flash websites


by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 9/29/2007 8:20 AM
I also noticed that not so many sites are totally Flash as in the past. Some of the big companies, such as Nike, still showcase their stuff with flash.
The Froguts website is really interesting and reminded me of my first encounter with Flash applications in the use of online math games. I browsed through some of the games we have posted online for our students and found that many of them are making use of Java in addition to Flash.
Flash Web Developers
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 9/24/2007 8:33 AM
I really enjoyed browsing through the different sites. I am so impressed with the quality of the animation, but also the quality of the artwork. From these sites I saw how Flash can be used in ways that I had never seen. Each of the sites that I found demonstrated their creativity within their own site. It is always discouraging to find web design firms who have very poorly designed sites of their own. That was not the case with these companies. If you didn't find www.flashbooty.com, check it out.
Best use of Flash (in my opinion): Galleries (photos especially)
Most annoying use of Flash: Opening animation with no way to "skip" it.
Re: Flash Web Developers


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 9/27/2007 9:43 PM
I'm with you on the intros that don't have a "skip" button...most annoying and sometimes enough to make me move on before the intro has finished.

Flash Booty has some great stuff. Thanks for the link.
Re: Flash Web Developers
by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 9/30/2007 8:27 PM
I agree with your comments. The web sites I visited were generally well done without overdoing the Flash. I think professionally developed sites do not need a lot of beeps, whistles and cartoons to convey a message adequately. I am impressed with the show of restraint with most of the sites.
Re: Flash Web Developers
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/5/2007 10:30 AM
I also agree it is very annoying to sit through an introduction if you do not want to. I would usually not wait until it finished.
Thanks for the link to Flash Booty. It was a good Web site.
Re: Flash Web Developers
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/7/2007 5:17 PM
Most of the sites that have intros usuallly have a skip button on them although it is hard to find (on purpose). I am however, with the rest of you in that if I navigate to a site that has trapped me into watching their ads or intro, I will just go somewhere else to find what it is that I am looking for. Some sites trap you to the point that the "Back" button won't even work. Malicious sites will do this so they can install adware on your computer while you are there and trapped.


Lesson 6


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flash portfolio
by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 11:54 AM
For some reason I can't export my project. Any suggestions? I like what I did and this book is ten time s better than the book I used with my students last year.
Portfolio Project
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/25/2007 11:45 AM
I hope that I did this project right. I think I did the layers correctly, but I had a hard time with the background. I had difficulty with the heading layer, but I kept going back to the text and recreating it until it looked right.
Post on Portfolio 2
by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/18/2007 11:36 PM
I'm having a bit of a problem with layout. Some of you really did some super stuff. I think I'll lay back easy before I get ahead of myself.
Re: Post on Portfolio 2


by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/25/2007 11:52 AM
I also felt like mine was pretty basic compared to some of the others. Learning the program is almost like learning how to use a computer all over again to me.
Flash Project
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/16/2007 11:19 AM
I am trying to get the guide to stop showing up when I publish. HELP!! I also can't center it. I don't think I am proficient enough to start up a project so soon.
Ugh.
by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 10/14/2007 11:45 PM
Flash seem to be a very functional application when you are comfortable with all of its tricks. I guess right now I am just overwhelmed by the amount of info that I am taking in. I don't fully understand the idea behind all the layers and how it works but I guess as I am able to play around with it, I will learn.
Re: Ugh.


by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/18/2007 11:39 PM
I don't believe you Cassandra. Really, I think you did some interesting things, but you used so much that I wonder where you will go from there.
Re: Ugh.
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/25/2007 11:55 AM
I feel very inadequate when using this program as well. But I am excited about gaining proficiency with it. Hopefully it will come soon!

Portfolio Beginning
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/14/2007 9:45 PM
Mine definitely still needs some more work! When I tested mine, it didn't occur to me to maximize my window, so when I uploaded it, and then opened it to make sure everything was fine, I was surprised at how large some of my objects are. I'll be continuing to work on it. I also am struggling with using multiple layers, so I hope it is ok that I did mine all in one layer. I will probably regret that when we add animation. I did use a guide layer to line up my buttons, and I was pretty excited that I remembered how to do that!
Re: Portfolio Beginning


by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 10/14/2007 11:47 PM
I was relieved to hear that I wasn't the only one that only had one layer. I am not sure what I am doing but it was fun playing around with it.

Portfolio
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/14/2007 8:54 PM
Whoops! I accidentally submitted my portfolio without actually attaching the file. So you will see two from me in the Course Materials. I enjoy learning about Flash. I really enjoyed this chapter. I liked learning about changing the shapes and colors. I can’t wait to learn more advanced techniques. Krista
Flash Portfolio Project
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/14/2007 8:53 PM
Seems like I spent mone time than necessary creating this little project. There are many different tools and things to learn. I'm not yet comfortable with the flash program. It seems to be very powerful but I suppose one needs to use it a bunch befor you get comfortable with everything. I too had problems with the border, and don't even recall if that was covered in the chapter. It's difficult to begin and work through the lessons in one sitting. When I published it it did'nt cover the entire screen. Does anyone know why? If so I could use a little help with that also. Thanks for any help you can give.
Re: Flash Portfolio Project


by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 10/14/2007 11:49 PM
I spent way too much time on this one as well! Now it is almost 12 and I hurried to submit it all. I am not sure I am doing what works but I am learning as I play around. We will see I guess.
Re: Flash Portfolio Project
by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/18/2007 11:45 PM
Nice job coach. You really have a nice looking project. Your extra time paid off I think.

Flash Project
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/14/2007 7:39 PM
I am still trying to get used to the different tools used in Flash. They are similar to other programs, but just enough different that I am still adjusting.
Did anyone have problems adding a border to the stage? I added a border to the stage, but when I ran the test movie, it was not as big as the screen. I also changed the project background, and it is not limited to just the stage size. I really think my problem lies within the border to the stage rather than the background. Does anyone have a solution to getting the background and the border the same size?
Re: Flash Project


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/14/2007 8:15 PM
Debra, I took a look at your .fla file, and I think you're right that the problem is just with the border.

If you look at the stage size, it's 550x400. That means that anything outside those dimensions won't show properly.

Since you are using a size 5 border, you need to subtract 1/2 that amount from the overall size to know where to place the border and have it show completely. (1/2 the amount because Flash seems to measure from the center point when you are looking at the property inspector.) That means the Y coordinate for your bottom border should be set to 398.5 for it to show properly.

You can also select the portion of the border you want to work with, then use the arrow keys to move it up/down/left/right till you are just inside the background, then back off one click.

Hope this helps!
Re: Re: Flash Project


by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/14/2007 8:55 PM
Heather, thanks for your reply on the border issue. I'm going to try to fix my border problem a little later. Thanks again.


Flash
by Diego Gavilanes (pozwatu7kojtys) at 10/14/2007 3:57 PM
I dont know if I did what I was supposed to do it. Do we have to use anymation at this time? I could not upload my folder with the files.
Re: Flash


by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/14/2007 4:09 PM
We don't have to add animation until the next lesson.
Re: Flash
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/14/2007 8:28 PM
Try going to File-->Publish and then upload the .swf file. I don't think we can upload folders, only individual files.

Start of Portfolio
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/14/2007 3:29 PM
Although it is very basic right now, I think that this project will be informative as well as fun depending on how invovled it gets. I would like to learn how to do the more advanced animations but I realize that I have to crawl before I can walk.
Re: Start of Portfolio


by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/14/2007 8:36 PM
Gary,
I agree that this project will be fun. I am also ready to learn about more advanced animations.
Good luck!
Flash Versions
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/12/2007 2:12 PM
Since there are two different versions of Flash being used in this class, I found that I could not view two of the portfolio projects that were posted. Since the "fla" file format requires the Flash program to open, my older version (Flash 8) could not open the other "fla" files. I had no problem with the "swf" file.
This one of those things that I have had to adjust to when using a program like Flash. The native format is not viewable to the general public. The file must be published in order to be seen by all.
I have emailed the instructor to see if we should post two files when submitting these lessons (fla & swf). I'll let you know when I get a response.
Re: Flash Versions


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/12/2007 9:59 PM
Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't even considered the cross-version problems.
Re: Flash Versions
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/14/2007 7:40 PM
Hi, Barbara....
Thanks for letting us know that there is a difference in the two versions of Flash. I uploaded both the .fla and .swf files for my portfolio to accommodate both versions.
Way to stay on top of things!
Denise
Flash project
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/9/2007 10:42 AM
I enjoyed creating my first flash project. I took me a while to get familiar with basic tools. Do we need to animate it at this time?
Thanks.
Re: Flash project


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/9/2007 10:00 PM
I really like your layout. No, I don't think we need to animate this one...that's for the next lesson.
You probably want to check the spelling on a couple of your buttons :)
Re: Re: Flash project


by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/20/2007 3:27 PM
Thanks. :-)
Re: Flash project
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/14/2007 3:11 PM
I don't think that we are required to include any animations at this time but you can get as creative as you want. I added one animation, very basic, but I was just trying to practice what we have learned.
Re: Flash project
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/14/2007 8:56 PM
I too had some problems with all the tools and trying to remember just what tool did what. Hopefully it will get a lettle better this week.
Re: Flash project
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/14/2007 9:43 PM
I'm having a difficult time learning the tools, as well, but the more I use it, the more I'm catching on.

Lesson 6, Discussion Forum
by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 10/7/2007 8:08 PM
I enjoyed doing this. I have had some experience with designing project web pages with other software and the transition to Flash has been interesting because of the differences in interface functions. However, so far, Flash has been much easier to use than some of the others.
Re: Lesson 6, Discussion Forum


by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/9/2007 10:44 AM
Your portfolio project looks very good.
Re: Lesson 6, Discussion Forum
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/14/2007 7:43 PM
Hi, Roy....
I also teach web design to high school students, but with Microsoft FrontPage as our main software program. For me, using FrontPage is easier than Flash, but I know it's because that's the program I am more familiar with. I know using Flash will get easier with time and use, but I'm still learning.
Keep up the good work!
Denise
Re: Re: Lesson 6, Discussion Forum


by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 11:58 AM
I teach Frontpage also and my students design the school web page with it. I like it better also. I teach flash in the spring for about six weeks to show them what it is. I would like to add it to their web pages eventually,


design question
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/7/2007 7:57 AM
Is this along the lines of what ya'll are doing? I'm not certain how much to stay with the book's design, and how much to branch out on my own.

Thanks for your input,
H
Re: design question


by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 10/7/2007 8:06 PM
Looks good to me. I think your plan-layout diagram is outstanding.
Re: Re: design question


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/8/2007 3:23 PM
Thanks, Roy.

Re: design question
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/8/2007 9:29 AM
I asked the instructor if it was OK to stray from the generic looking sample in the book. She said that we could be creative as long as the basic elements work properly.
Re: Re: design question


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/8/2007 3:09 PM
Thanks, Barbara.

Re: design question
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/14/2007 3:09 PM
Hey Heather,
I went pretty much out on my own. I kept the basic info the same but went a different route with the design. I don't think that we have to make it look like the one in the book. The book said to be creatvie with the design, so I take that as do what you want but include the required info.
Re: design question
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/14/2007 8:49 PM
Heather,
I opened your portfolio, and I think "me" should be capitalized in Contact Me. Especially since me in About Me is capitalized. I just thought I would point that out. I know after you read it so many times it reads and sounds just like you want it to.
It looks really good!
Krista
Re: Re: design question


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/15/2007 10:14 AM
Whoops! Thanks, Krista. I completely missed that one.

H

Re: design question
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/14/2007 9:41 PM
I'm glad to see others drifted away from the book design, because mine is way off! :)


Lesson 7


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frustration
by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 11/19/2007 11:30 AM
Okay, well, I have mostly no problems while doing the in book activities but have no idea what I am doing on my own. I am extremely frustrated with this program right now. I feel each of these programs could be a class in of themselves and we are trying to cram in ideas and activities that should be taught over a period of an entire semester. Perhaps, this is because I am not at all familiar with programs such as Flash, and barely computer literate, however, whatever the case, I am very, very frustrated and confused.
Frustration for Glynn Burrell
by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/29/2007 11:29 PM
I spent hours on this and was confounded by the buttons. I'm afraid I am lost. Movie looks good. Somewhere along the way, I lost control of the buttons that worked for a while.
Lesson 7
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/28/2007 1:54 PM
This lesson was very frustrating at first and I spent a lot of time going over the material to no avail. But I stepped away for a day and came back to it and was able to see mistakes with fresh eyes. Each week this program makes more and more sense to me. Can't wait for next week!
Re: Lesson 7


by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 2:27 PM
I agree. I finally finished mine today (2 days late). I started completely over, and I found that if I did my buttons and assigned actions as I went instead of trying to do them at the end made things go much more smoothly. I gave up on Friday night, didn't even look at it Saturday, and sat down today, started over, and did it in an hour and a half. Sometimes just starting from scratch helps put things back into perspective. :) (This coming from the woman who had numerous panic sessions over this!!!)

On to lesson 8 . . .

Lesson seven
by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 12:07 PM
Since 6 didn't upload neither did 7 and I did them one right after the other, so I am still stuck on uploading my projects. I would appreciate any ideas. To me making buttons is so much like Frontpage and is easy to understand. The actionsscripts is similiar to writing html. This lesson was pretty easy.
Flash Chpt 3
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/21/2007 9:57 PM
It's good to know that I am not the only one that has had problems with this lesson! I feel the frustration, too.
I have spent hours and days on this and had to walk away many times. I just now got my buttons to work. Yippee!!!
What I did was restart, again, from the beginning of my portfolio. There were two things I did differently after reading the discussion posts and talking to Mrs. Hall. The first thing I corrected was to change the ActionScript to 2.0 in the File/Publish Settings option. I then published it instead of saying "OK".
The second thing I did different the last time when it worked was I created my ovals for my "listed things--animations, work history, etc." on a separate layer. Before I did anything else, I converted them to buttons without the text. I just named each oval with the corresponding text to identify them later. I also set the buttons up with their perspective over, down, and hit options before adding the text. I then created a new layer with the labels for my ovals on them. When I did that, it finally worked.
I hope this helps those who are still frustrated. Good luck!
Denise
Re: Flash Chpt 3


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/22/2007 6:41 AM
Denise, it looks great! Thanks for the step-by-step walk through.
Re: Flash Chpt 3
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/22/2007 9:13 AM
I'll start over for the millionth time and try that. Thanks so much for the advice.
Re: Flash Chpt 3
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/28/2007 1:55 PM
The info you posted was very helpful! Thank you for sharing with us.
Re: Flash Chpt 3
by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/29/2007 11:27 PM
I used a million buttons and can't get them to work. Looks like they should. They just don't. I speant about 30 hours on this think and am very frustrated.
Glynn Burrell
Flash Chapter 3
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/21/2007 9:18 PM
To say the least, chapter three was a pain in the butt. I could not figure out how to add a new page and it was because I had added animation to the first portfolio submission and that had me all confused. I finally figured it out after about 2 hours of messing with it. I find this interesting but frustrating also to some extent.
Re: Flash Chapter 3


by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 10/28/2007 1:57 PM
I agree. I was very frustrated, but it seems that perseverance is the key to this lesson.

Portfolio3
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/21/2007 8:21 PM
Well, I spent a huge amount of time on this and feel very defeated. I couldn't get anything to work. The instructions in the book are not very good in my opinion, even if you are doing the books examples. I'll try and fix it later. edited by wsyde0sotjaksu on 10/21/2007 8:22 PM
Re: Portfolio3


by Glynn Burrell (wcabe6soljaksu) at 10/29/2007 11:23 PM
I had the same trouble. I couldn't get things to work properly. I think the book is often unclear as well.
Glynn Burrell
Flash 3
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/21/2007 6:09 PM
I had some trouble with chapter 3 because I set the keyframe to 67 instead of 66 and believe me it really sux. Otherwise, I have enjoyed all the tools and possibilities Flash offers so far.
Re: Flash 3


by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/21/2007 9:20 PM
I feel your pain with the Flash thing. Sometimes I get confused because there is so much to all Flash creations. I guess we will eventually get the hang of it.

Flash 3
by Diego Gavilanes (pozwatu7kojtys) at 10/21/2007 4:37 PM
I am having fun playing with flash and creating my Portfolio. I am having problems uploading the folder with the files though. I am using GIF files, and when I tried to upload, it says that I have exceeded the size limit
Re: Flash 3


by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/22/2007 8:42 AM
I am not sure why you are uploading GIF files. I think you should just be uploading the fla file and either an html or swf file. Once you finish your file, just publish it and it will be converted to either html or swf (depending on what you select).

flash
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/21/2007 2:27 PM
It is getting much more interesting and complicated. There is a lot to learn in flash. I am still confused with the tools and action settings. I had no problem with Flash 3 by going through each step carefully. However, I had to go back to the text book over and over again to create the animation for my own portfolio. I was having trouble assigning a goto action to a button in my portfolio until I figured out to reset the actionscript to 1.0 or 2.0. edited by zkurlimkyje0so on 10/21/2007 3:42 PM edited by zkurlimkyje0so on 10/22/2007 12:06 PM
Re: flash


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/22/2007 6:29 AM
Gloria, your animation looks fantastic! Did you create the bitmaps you used?
You might want to check one thing: I can't seem to get to your animation page from your home page. I think it's just a matter of converting your Portfolios image to a button.
Love the anim :)
Re: Re: flash


by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/22/2007 12:06 PM
Thanks, Heather, I didn't create the "dragon", I just animated it.
I finally figured out to change the actionscript to 1.0 or 2.0. the link works now.
Portfolio Project
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/21/2007 11:24 AM
I am so frustrated with Flash right now, I can hardly see straight. I have worked all weekend on this, and I can't keep straight anything I was supposed to have learned over the last few weeks. My portfolio does nothing but flash between my home page and my animation page. I can't get it to select one object, it wants to select everything on the stage. Everything we've studied is running together, and now I'm starting to panic because I'm going to have to go back through the last 3 lessons today in an attempt to get something presentable put together to upload before midnight tonight.

OK, I've vented. There it is. . . thanks for listening. :)
Re: Portfolio Project


by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/21/2007 2:12 PM
No problem expressing frustration. This is truly one program that you can't stay away from for too long. I let a few days go by after finishing my project and it took quite awhile to remember what I had done. I really like working with the progam and would love to take a deeper look into the program in a course that is dedicated just to this program. Maybe that will be "life after grad school."
Re: Portfolio Project
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/21/2007 6:11 PM
lol. I feel your pain!! I screwed up my "step by steps". Go figure. I'm working on my portfolio in steps and a lot slower than the chapter. I hope I don't screw that up.
Re: Portfolio Project
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/21/2007 8:26 PM
I clearly understand you frustration. I had the same types of problem. I hope it gets better. Maybe we will figure it out at some time.
Re: Portfolio Project
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/21/2007 9:26 PM
I can sympathize with you. I have redone the entire project at least twice. I had the same problem with trying to select one thing. I finally got it where I could select just one thing and create a button to link to a different frame and then finally to the animation frame. I too am going to go back through everything from the prior 3 weeks and try to put it all together. There is so much to remember!
Re: Portfolio Project
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/21/2007 10:11 PM
My portfolio was doing the same thing until this afternoon when I finally got it to cooperate with me. I redid the exercises, seems like 15 times, but what I finally did was to create a StopMovie action to the frame. The instructions are on Flash 3-24. It worked. That solved one of my problems. I then had to figure out how to make the buttons work.
Good luck!
Denise
Portfolio 3
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/21/2007 10:42 AM
I worked a lot of hours on my project just like some of you that have already posted. I think I finally figured it out.
I am enjoying learning Flash; however, it can be frustrating at the same time. Oh well! That is the same with anything new.
Krista
Not always WYSIWYG
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/16/2007 9:19 AM
I have posted my project (fla, swf, & html versions). I was really satisfied with the outcome until I looked at it again after posting. The swf version of my animation has a blue background with a white stage. When previewing it in Flash, the window was always the exact size of the stage. Therefore, my graphics disappeared off the right of the stage with ease. However, when I view it from my posting, the window is much larger and the background can be seen behind the stage. The white square around one of my graphics is visible and the graphics do not move off of the stage far enough.
This reinforces the fact that these things need to be tested at several different resolutions and with different window sizes. Still learning . . .
edited by ffowwabe0vitry on 10/16/2007 9:19 AM
Re: Not always WYSIWYG


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/20/2007 10:56 AM
Good point, and something we need to remember for website design as well. Not all monitors/browsers are created equal :)
Re: Not always WYSIWYG
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/21/2007 11:30 AM
Barbara, yours look really good. You seem to have a knack for this!
Re: Not always WYSIWYG
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/21/2007 6:13 PM
It looks good to me. I suppose you know more. I will check mine. Thanks for the info.
Re: Not always WYSIWYG
by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 12:11 PM
I have found that to be true. In our school there are who know how many different monitors. The flat screen monitors will view our webpages one way and the old student monitors another. So when my kids finish a webpage that needs to be uploaded we have to check it on several monitors to make sure it looks right.

Portfolio
by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 10/14/2007 8:43 PM
I've worked all weekend and still cannot get those buttons to work right. I will persist, but it surely is taking a lot of time. I wonder if the text is leaving something out that we are supposed to discover ourselves.
Form the looks of the postings on this forum, I'm not the only one having trouble.
Oh well.
Re: Portfolio


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/16/2007 6:02 AM
Which part is giving you fits? I couldn't get the right Action Scripts to show up until I set the publishing options to ActionScript 2.0. Now they are working like they are supposed to.
Hope this helps!
Re: Portfolio
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/21/2007 10:39 AM
Roy,
I also worked many hours on my project. It seems pretty easy when you are following the book, but my portfolio did not seem to like the same steps.
Good luck!
Krista
Re: Re: Portfolio


by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/21/2007 2:19 PM
I am not able to assign a goto action to a button on my portfolio. :-(
I understand how you feel.
Re: Portfolio
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/21/2007 11:25 AM
I feel your pain. I can't get ANYTHING to work right.
Re: Portfolio
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/21/2007 8:27 PM
Does anyone know how to do this button thing. What a problem. Good luck.
Re: Portfolio
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/21/2007 10:04 PM
Hey Roy...
Seems like everyone has had the same troubles with buttons this time. Me, too.
Two things I did to finally get it to work was to set Flash's Publish Settings under File/Publish Settings to ActiveScript 2.0 and then clicking on Publish Settings instead of doing "OK". Another thing you might try creating your box or ovals for animations, work history, etc., on a separate layer and then converting them to buttons before adding text. I did this and set up the buttons to do their thing with the over, down, and hit. At this point I created a separate layer for their text. When I got ready to create the animation part with the ActionScript, I went to my layer with the box/oval where the buttons were and it worked.
Good luck!
Denise
ActionScript 2.0 hint
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/14/2007 11:49 AM
I refuse to admit how long I spent trying to get my buttons scripted, how many prior projects and samples I looked at, how many times I took apart the racecar frame by frame, before I *finally* reread the hint in step 6. Sheesh!

Take the hint and set your publishing options before you try to script the buttons You will save your sanity as well as your time.
Re: ActionScript 2.0 hint


by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/16/2007 9:10 AM
I know this process did take awhile to make sense, but I finally got it to work. I am not sure that I truly understand it enough to duplicate it again after being away from the program for a few days, but it is quite satisfying to have it work at last. edited by ffowwabe0vitry on 10/20/2007 5:17 PM
Re: Re: ActionScript 2.0 hint


by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/20/2007 3:37 PM
Me too. I had no problem with Flash 3. However, I had to go back to the text book over and over again to create the animation for my own portfolio.
Re: Re: Re: ActionScript 2.0 hint


by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/21/2007 11:28 AM
I had read several of these on Friday and new to make sure the ActionScript was set to 2.0, but I'm with you . . . I'm going to have to read over the book again and start over, I think. I don't think my learning style allows for me to learn something like this from a book. :)


Re: ActionScript 2.0 hint
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/20/2007 3:45 PM
Thanks for the advise. :-)
Re: ActionScript 2.0 hint
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/21/2007 10:36 AM
Heather,
I also worked many hours on this project. Thanks for the hint.
I think I finally figured it out.
Krista

Lesson 8


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Lesson 8
by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 11/28/2007 11:01 AM
This is starting to come together a little better for me. These animations were fun although I still feel a little overwhelmed.
Portfolio
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/7/2007 7:09 PM
Ok hope I am finally done. This lesson was difficult, but not as impossible as it seemed at first. I think maybe it is starting to sink in how to work the layers and frames.
Re: Portfolio


by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 11/28/2007 11:03 AM
Yes, I agree that it is sinking in here at the end for me too. I guess it is better late than never.

Help with bottons!
by Diego Gavilanes (pozwatu7kojtys) at 11/1/2007 7:23 PM
I am having a hard time with the buttons. I can not create the link from the home page to the animations. I am following the instructions of the book but for some reason is not working. Can anybody help me and give me an advice. Thank you.
Re: Help with bottons!


by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/7/2007 7:10 PM
I used the goto options and told it to go to the frame 1 and stop for the home buttons and the other ones I looked at which frame it was I was linking to, and did the same thing. edited by wxahu1cihjaksu on 11/7/2007 7:12 PM

Animated Text
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 10:32 PM
My text animates great, but each line disappears after it puts on its show. Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?
Re: Animated Text


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/28/2007 11:18 PM
Love your skater!
I ended up putting another keyframe on each text layer at the frame that marked the end of the last text animation (looks like that would be frame 300 in your file). That may not be the best way, but at least it kept the text on the screen. :)
edited by fnimmapu0vitry on 10/28/2007 11:24 PM

Flash Chapter 4
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/28/2007 10:15 PM
This lesson was so much easier than last week, but I still cannot get my portfolio to do what I want it to do. I have each of my "animations" completed within my portfolio, but once again, the buttons are giving me fits. I can get the buttons to work on my "Sample Animations" page, but I cannot get a "home" button to work on each of the animation pages. I'm sure it is one simple step, but I cannot get it to work right now. So my portfolio won't be completed until tomorrow, hopefully.
I enjoyed working with each of the animations in this lesson. It was fun to make things move in one way or another without a great deal of effort. I know I will still have to refer to the instructions for doing each of them, but at least I have those marked with sticky notes so I can find them faster.
Re: Flash Chapter 4


by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 10:31 PM
I gave up on that on mine. I had each of my animations end with a blank page with buttons that would either return the viewer to my home page or to my animations list. When I tried to put those buttons on my animations page, it would create symbols and if I tried to move an object it moved the whole stage.
Buttons...what worked for me
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/29/2007 6:27 AM
I got the button to work on last week's (Lesson 7) portfolio, so I copied it to my new scene and then just edited the Action Script. I did the same thing on my Sample Animations page.
Re: Flash Chapter 4
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/7/2007 7:14 PM
Good idea about using the sticky notes!
Re: Flash Chapter 4
by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 11/28/2007 11:04 AM
Yes, the buttons seem to be the most confusing for everyone. Button, button, button...who's got the button?---Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

Animation woes and Mac question
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/28/2007 10:11 PM
I can't count the hours I've spent trying to get the animations to do what I wanted them to. I finally gave up and went with simpler anim's, and hope they work.
Is anyone using a Mac? I just gave my published .swf and .html files to my husband (I'm Windows, he's Mac) and he isn't able to access either one. Is there some special publishing setting I need to use so Macs can view the file?
Flash 4
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/28/2007 10:02 PM
I enjoyed chapter 4 a lot. Animating those cars is very interesting.
It is still challenging for me to try to remember all the steps that I am trying to learn.
Re: Flash 4


by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/28/2007 10:07 PM
It is challenging for me, too. In fact, I have finally marked the pages in my textbook with sticky notes labeled for "stopmovie", "create buttons", etc., just so I don't have to continually waste time looking for them.
I'm still not confident enough to do everything we've learned so far without looking at my instructions each time. I guess it will get easier the more I use it. I hope so!
Good luck,
Denise
Lesson 8
by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 10/28/2007 7:55 PM
This is the least user friendly textbook and curriculum I have ever used. I still cannot get the buttons to work.
Re: Lesson 8


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/28/2007 9:50 PM
I had real trouble with my buttons, too, until I checked the Publish Settings. You might want to double-check those...
File-->Publish Settings and make sure the ActionScript version is set to ActionScript 2.0.
Hope this helps!
Re: Lesson 8
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/28/2007 9:58 PM
I experienced the same problem with buttons in the beginning of flash.Yes, I agree with Heather's tip in her response. Hope it works.
Re: Lesson 8
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 10/28/2007 10:04 PM
I am glad to know that I am not the only one still have problems with my buttons, and I thought I had it figured out last week. I at least got it to work last week.
Keep plugging away. I've walked away so many times that its not funny, but usually when I do, I can come back and get things to work.
Good luck,
Denise
Re: Lesson 8
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/29/2007 8:01 PM
I agree with you Roy--I still have a headach from this weekend trying to figure it out.

Lesson 8
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/28/2007 6:54 PM
I have been working on this all day and am exhausted. I can't remember ever putting forth so much effort for such little return. I am not done and just a little confused not to mentioned how painful this experience has been. I think I'll go ant eat a bottle of Tylenol and see what happens later. This flash thing adds a whole new meaning to computer literacy. Or would that be illiteracy in my case. Hope the rest of you guys are doing better than I am. Guess I'll just keep plugging away
Is anyone done with Lesson 8?
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/28/2007 5:51 PM
I am still working on my Portfolio for Lesson 8 and will probably have to turn it in late. However, I notice that only one portfolio has been turned in so far...is everyone else having trouble getting it done.
I am getting it to work, but probably putting too much thought into what I want to do. I feel the same as a beginning programming student. The program works; however, it is surely not the most efficient way to do it.
Re: Is anyone done with Lesson 8?


by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 6:00 PM
Hi, Barbara. So far mine is going relatively smoothly, but I finally finished Lesson 7 a few hours ago, so I am a bit strapped for time. If I do get mine turned in on time, it will be close and because there is a lack of creativity in my animations. :)

-Leslie
Re: Is anyone done with Lesson 8?
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/28/2007 6:45 PM
I'm still working and not having much luck. It makes sense to me when I work the lessons, but then when I attempt to do the portfolio I just get all confused. I will not finish lesson 8 tonight, not real sure when I will get it done.

Flash Chapter 4
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 5:26 PM
I am also having an easier time with this chapter, though after I complete my animations I am still having trouble with working them into my portfolio. For example, it says in the book that "when you select an object that is not already a symbol in the Library and create a motion tween, Flash automatically creates a symbol, names it Tween 1 [or 2 or 9 or 10 in my case] and places it in the Library panel." I made sure everything in that frame was a symbol, but when I tried to insert a motion tween, it would select everything on the stage, create on big symbol, and save it. Then when I tried to move one object, it would move the whole stage. I had to finally just do it a tad different than the instructions say to get around this, but if anyone can tell me why this is happening, I would appreciate it!!
Re: Flash Chapter 4




by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 10/28/2007 9:54 PM
Whew! Glad I'm not the only one that keeps happening too. I ended up putting everything in separate layers to be able to make the individual parts do what I want, but I'm pretty sure that's not the most efficient way.

Lesson 8
by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 10/28/2007 12:16 PM
I have found a way that makes this easier for me. In the lessons I concentrate on doing the activities at one time and continue until I am through. Example. I did 5-8 this weekend and except for the fact they won't upload at the moment I have done them To me it is easier to keep my train of thought on one thing than to do each chapter at a time.
Re: Lesson 8


by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 5:22 PM
I tried your idea on this chapter, and it worked. I am going back and forth between the lessons and my portfolio and working on my portfolio at the same time I work through the lessons. It is definitely taken some stress off, since I know which lesson I am working in if I have to go back and look something up, rather than searching through the whole chapter.
Re: Lesson 8
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 10/28/2007 6:40 PM
This stuff has not been easy for me. I'm glad you're having some success.
Re: Lesson 8
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/28/2007 9:24 PM
Cindy,
I agree. It works better to work chapter by chapter.
Good luck with the rest of the lessons.
Krista
Re: Re: Lesson 8


by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/28/2007 10:09 PM
Krista,
Your flash project 4 is awesome!
Gloria
edited by zkurlimkyje0so on 10/28/2007 10:09 PM

Re: Lesson 8
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 10/28/2007 9:54 PM
I agree with your idea.
Gloria
Chapter 4
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/27/2007 4:13 PM
This class has been a humbling experience to say the least. I feel a lot better knowing that I am not the only one frustrated but having fun at the same time. I laugh at myself when I look at everyone else's portfolios:)
Chapter 4 Flash
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/25/2007 8:53 PM
This chapter was a lot less confusing. This stuff is getting more and more interesting as it goes along. I can't hardly wait until we integrate all three of them at once...won't that be fun?!
Re: Chapter 4 Flash


by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/27/2007 1:39 PM
I agree this chapter was less confusing, and it is getting more interesting.
Good luck with the next chapter.
Re: Chapter 4 Flash
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/27/2007 4:15 PM
I like your positive attitude. I'm afraid I'm not as excited as you to integrate all three when I still an having issues with Flash.
Re: Chapter 4 Flash
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 10/27/2007 4:21 PM
Hmmmmm.... I guess I need a tutor because I am not that excited. lol
Re: Chapter 4 Flash
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 10/28/2007 5:29 PM
Lol . . .I have to agree with Shawna on two points: 1.) This has definitely been a humbling experience. 2.) I am not excited about integrating it all together. :)
Re: Chapter 4 Flash
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/28/2007 5:54 PM
I really enjoy working with this program, but do not feel I will ever put anything worthwhile together without taking a full class on this software. While the lessons in the book are interesting, I wish that the activities built on each other similar to the way we have to put together our portfolios.
By the way, are all of you using Scenes to separate the different parts of your portfolio. Since most of you are using the new version of Flash (I am using Flash 8.), I cannot see your fla files to see how you are putting things together.
Portfolio 4
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 10/24/2007 11:38 PM
Well I can honestly say that I actually spent less time on this lesson than the last lesson. I have never worked with Flash before, and I agree with most of you that it is fun to learn but also frustrating. I guess that is the same way with everything new to us.
Re: Portfolio 4


by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 10/25/2007 8:55 PM
I have to agree that this chapter was easier to understand and less time consuming. Chapter three was a lot of info all wrapped into one chapter. I hope I can remember at least some of it!
Can't see your portfolio :(
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 10/26/2007 2:15 PM
Can you publish your portfolio in swf or html? I would love to see what you have done, but I am using the older version of Flash and cannot open your file.
Thanks, Barbara

Lesson 9


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Navigation bar
by Cassandra Kermode (vibtykvetjiksy) at 11/28/2007 11:50 PM
This chapter was easier for me although I have a hard time knowing how it all fits together and how it all works. I would really like to go back through this again and try to make clear sense of it all.
Navigation Bar
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/9/2007 5:41 PM
I still cannot get the navigation bar to work. I know i must be overlooking something crucial. Everything else makes sense though, so as a whole, I feel better about working with Flash than I did in previous lessons. Anyone have any suggestions with the Nav bar?
I forgot to do this discussion
by Roy Engram (zzufhoqqyje0so) at 11/7/2007 4:09 PM
Well I'm running a little late because, at my age, you start to have senior moments. Anyway, I find this curriculum out of sync with the learning environment. Seems to me, this text probably needs a live instructor to take people through the steps and fill in any gaps that exists in what is presented in the text and what is needed to complete the projects. Flash has been very frustrating to me and I have been programming computers for several years with some very complex languages. The compiler complaints are not always easy to fix or interpret and there is not a single reference in the text for remedies.
That's all for now or I'll start to rave.
Thank you and fair weather.
Portfolio 5
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 11/6/2007 9:35 AM
This is starting to be a pain in the neck. I am starting to be glad that this is the last exercise in Flash. There are so many things that can go wrong in Flash and it is difficult to track it down when it does.
Re: Portfolio 5


by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 12/2/2007 10:37 AM
Flash and I are not friend either. I can only hope when I get the updated version things will be better.

Navigation Bar
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 11/6/2007 8:26 AM
Has anyone been able to create a new one and have it work? I've studied the file from the text until I'm cross-eyed, but still can't get the rollOver to work properly. Sigh.

If you see anything I've missed in my file, please let me know.
Thanks,
Heather
Re: Navigation Bar


by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/9/2007 5:42 PM
I cannot get mine to work either. Everything else worked better for me this time, though.

Flash
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 11/5/2007 9:14 AM
This is my first time learning flash, and it has been a challenge learning it. However, I came to really enjoy it. There are so many cool things we can create with flash.
Re: Flash


by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/9/2007 5:44 PM
I agree, as difficult as it has been I can imagine a lot of great uses for Flash. I just hope I can retain it all.

Lesson 9
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 11/5/2007 9:13 AM
I still had problems with the buttons. Now my labels disappear when I try making them into buttons. However, enjoying the fact that I don't know how to use Flash!
Re: Lesson 9


by Cindy Dickenson (powvabe8kojtys) at 12/2/2007 10:37 AM
I still have button issues and making my animaton work right. I have left and gone back several times and still can't make it work. I think using an older version is hindering me.

Ward_portfolio5
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:37 PM
I had problems again this week and was unable to complete the portfoili. I did go back and complete some of the stuff from last week, but its beena huge problem trying to get anything to work properly.
Portfolio 5
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 11/4/2007 9:20 PM
I have finished my Flash as much as I am going to. I think I finally got it to work, except for my Navigation Bar. I can't get the buttons to hide when the pointer is not over the button. If anyone has any hints, I would appreciate the help! Thanks.
Re: Portfolio 5


by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:30 PM
I wish I could help, but this has been a trying experience for me. Lets hope it gets a bit better.
Re: Portfolio 5
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:33 PM
Krista,
Great job on your portfolio! I think it looks great! How did you get your titles and buttons back to Home and Sample Animations to work on the morph, shape tween, shape hint, and mask? I tried, but as you will see with my animations, the buttons were included in the animations. It looks okay and kind of adds a '"twist" to things, but it was not in my original plans.
As for your "hiding" problem...
Did you insert your "rollOver" layer above the background layer? That would be the only thing I know to try.
Good luck,
Denise
Re: Re: Portfolio 5


by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 11/4/2007 10:55 PM
Debra,
I think I did insert rollover, but I will go back and check. Thanks for the hint.
As for my buttons, it took me awhile to figure everything out. I just dragged my existing buttons (home and animations) on the last frame of each animation. Then, I set it to goto my Home scene frame 1 (home button) or 2 (animation button). I don't know if this will help, but I hope it does.
Krista
Re: Portfolio 5
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 11/4/2007 10:10 PM
Krista,
I'm having exactly the same problem with my navBar. I'm going to take one more crack at it tomorrow night and see if I can get the thing to work properly...I'll let you know if I manage to discover anything!
Re: Portfolio 5
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 11/5/2007 9:40 PM
Hi, Krista. I had the same problem with the navbar the book had us create. I figure if I can't even get the sample exercise to work, then I may be in trouble creating my own!! :)

Good luck, and I'll let you know if I figure anything out.
-Leslie
Re: Portfolio 5
by Gary Cahill (pomvahu8zojtys) at 11/6/2007 9:38 AM
I got mine to work but I am having other problems switching scenes and creating stops () and plays () and that kind of thing.

Portfolio again and question
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:20 PM
From the looks of things, I am not the only one still struggling with our portfolio. I finally completed my portfolio for this week, but only because I used the step-by-step exercises as my animations to complete it. Even then, I had to redo a few of them because it would not copy correctly from the step-by-step to my portfolio.
Now for a question....
What types of clip art are you using to create new animation or are you creating your own? I have tried both with no luck. I could only go so far and then the next step was not an option. Has anyone else tried creating their own animation things? I did notice on the website that Mrs. Hall sent to us for Flash tutorials that there was something about clip art. I have not had time to do more than read through the tutorials. Maybe this week I'll have a chance to work through it and figure out a few things.
Good luck to all,
Denise
Re: Portfolio again and question


by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 11/4/2007 9:22 PM
I have used both. I have had better luck with clipart. I tried to draw a simple bike and morph it into a Jeep for this weeks assignment. But I could not get it to work right, so I used the graphics from the chapters.
Good luck!
Re: Portfolio again and question
by Robert Ward (wsyde0sotjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:32 PM
I have had lots of problems with this stuff. Hope you find your answers.
Re: Portfolio again and question
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 11/4/2007 10:00 PM
I am using clipart, but editing it with Photoshop. I know that the next lesson is Fireworks (would have been nice to have it first), but I am more comfortable with Photoshop. It allows me to modify the clipart and then create different versions of the clipart with movable parts.
Re: Portfolio again and question
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 11/4/2007 10:15 PM
I used .gif files, and instead of using the "Break Apart" command, I tried using the Modify->Bitmap->Trace Bitmap command. It has worked so far (fingers crossed!).
Re: Portfolio again and question
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 11/5/2007 9:04 AM
Debra,
There are free flash animations online. I also created graphics with Flash and it seems to work the best. I created a snowman, weird looking ship, flower, face and buttons with Flash. They look funny but I have tried my best. I hope it works well for you, too.
Gloria
One more thing . . .notebooks!
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 11/4/2007 8:44 PM
In all the frustration over Flash, I have neglected my notebook and it is seriously lacking. I was wondering what kinds of things everyone is placing in their notebooks?

-Leslie
Re: One more thing . . .notebooks!


by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:09 PM
Hi, Leslie...
We are in the same boat with reference to the notebook. I am not on top of it like I should be, but I have a few things started. What I am going to include is a copy of each of our course lessons and discussion forums for each lesson. I would like to include the exercises and portfolio assignments from the textbook, but I have yet to figure out how to do that without retyping the entire thing or copying it. I have completed the first two, but I have not included the exercises or portfolio assignments yet because I do not know how to go about it. Got any ideas?
Good luck,
Denise
Re: One more thing . . .notebooks!
by Chiung-Yueh Brumley (zkurlimkyje0so) at 11/5/2007 9:11 AM
I am also still trying to figure out what to include in my course notebook. So far, I included Lesson 1 to 9 course instructions, useful online information that I found while working on Flash, and Dreamweaver/Flash assignments. I think that's all we need. Let me know if you think off anything else to include. Thanks.
Gloria
Re: One more thing . . .notebooks!
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 11/5/2007 9:15 AM
I printed out the lessons and some of the discussions on Flash but that's all I've done for my notebook so far. Let me know if anyone else has anything different. sl

Portfolio
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 11/4/2007 8:39 PM
Well, I was so proud of myself last week for getting caught up, and now I'm back in the trenches again. I had the best luck when I just scrapped the whole thing and started over, but I feel like I did everything the same the second time around as I did the first time . . . so I never figured out where my mistakes were. Now it looks like I am making the same ones again and I don't know how to fix them, and I refuse to start over again. I am going to have to give up for the week and try to upload it tomorrow or Tuesday.

-Leslie edited by 8cibdagqujtos on 11/4/2007 8:41 PM
What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.
by Barbara Landingin (ffowwabe0vitry) at 11/3/2007 12:11 AM
A colleague of mine sent this to me today. He doesn't realize how appropriate it is for our class. Only someone who has suffered through Flash Anxiety will be able to laugh at this. Enjoy.
http://alanbecker.deviantart.com/art/Animator-vs-Animation-34244097
Barbara
Re: What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.


by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 11/3/2007 7:32 AM
ROTFL!

Between this and NowWhat I'm finally smiling about Flash...and wondering "How'd they DO that???"

Thanks Barbara!
Re: What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.
by Krista Sutton (suflixxatu9kor) at 11/3/2007 11:04 AM
Barbara,
That was great. I couldn't imagine creating that myself.
Thanks for sharing that with us.
Krista
Re: What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.
by Leslie Clark (8cibdagqujtos) at 11/4/2007 8:37 PM
That really was great . . . I took a break from my portfolio (not going well again) and browsed the site . . . and there is an neat "animator vs. animation II" as well.
Re: What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.
by Debra Breshears (wmale4mitjaksu) at 11/4/2007 9:02 PM
Barbara,
This was a terrific illustration of how Flash makes me feel when I am working with it! Thank you for sharing!!!
Denise
Re: What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.
by Christina Hendon (wxahu1cihjaksu) at 11/5/2007 8:43 AM
Thank you for sharing that animation with us! How funny is that? I guess that animator has been where we are now.
Re: What all of us needs . . . a good laugh.
by Shawna Lopez (be1vithygvetro) at 11/5/2007 9:19 AM
That was great!! Thanks.

Frustrated rant deleted
by Heather Burleson (fnimmapu0vitry) at 11/1/2007 6:47 AM
I went back and re-read the chapter more carefully :) Sorry 'bout that! edited by fnimmapu0vitry on 11/2/2007 8:15 PM